<blockquote><b>Our abductors spoke Fulfulde, collected N4.5m ransom Kidnapped Kaduna PFN chairman</b><br><br><b>On Christmas Day, Nigerians received the disturbing news of the abduction of the Chairman, Pentecostal Fellowship of Nigeria in Kaduna State, Apostle Emmanuel Bako, and his wife, Cinty. They were released after 48 hours but not without paying N4.5m ransom, contrary to the claim by the police that the couple was rescued. In this interview with GODWIN ISENYO, the cleric talks about the experience</b><br><br><b><i>On December 25, 2020, Nigerians received the sad news that you and your wife were kidnapped by some gunmen. How did it happen'</i></b><br><br><br>I was in the house on the fateful day; I didnt know these kidnappers were already operating on the road. They had a clash with the police but I didnt know. I was coming out to re-park my car. So, it was later on they told me they thought that I knew about either the robbery or that attack or the firing that was going on at my gate. They said they thought I was requesting reinforcement against them or that I was trying to run away. So, as I was trying to re-park, they fired at my car directly twice. It was then that I knew that something was happening. Thank God, none of the bullets got me but I have some of the (expended) bullets with me right now. They picked me up. My wife was in the house, they went for her and we went into the bush.<br><br><br><b><i>Did they ransack your house'</i></b><br><br>Yes, they went into my house; saw the children but they only picked my wife. And of course, they carried some things in my house, meat and food items, in particular.<br><br><b><i>What happened after they took you into the bush'</i></b><br><br>Wow! The journey started around 7:30pm and we never stopped until around 1:00am, trekking through the bushes. I had no shoes on me. I was barefooted for the first time. We went on, non-stop, until we got far into the bush when they were also tired. We slept on bare ground and then around 5:30am, we were up again. From there we started going from one mountain to another. I think they were afraid, thinking the security people were pursuing them or the villagers would regroup against them. So, we didnt have a particular spot. We were going from one place to another and into a thick forest. And that was how we kept journeying from 5:30am until about 11:00am and 12pm and then we rested until about 4pm. We started moving again until 8pm, and then we rested again.<br><br><br>Then, the issue of money came. They started asking for money and I told them that I didnt have money. They asked me how much I could afford and I told them that I couldnt even afford N100,000. I told them that I am just in that camp, praying and that I am not a friend of any organisation. I told them that I offer services to people. Eventually they asked me to get a contact with one of our peopleanybody or they would kill me. Well, thank God, we were not moved. We were very composed. We approached them as fathers. We approached them with the love of Jesus. We just knew that it was not normal for them to be in the bushes carrying out the operation if not for the needs that they had in their lives. It was just about survival otherwise they wouldnt do that. We told them that that they wouldnt have done what they were doing. We told them that we had passion for them and that if we had money, we would give them. That broke them. Initially they were violent but eventually, they piped down. They became kind and humane. They even served us, then the negotiation actually took off in the morning about paying ransom and we got in touch with one of our pastors. We never had a particular spot that we stayed. We just kept moving until we were finally released on a Sunday evening.<br><br><br><b><i>How did your wife manage to cope with the stress'</i></b><br><br>Sometimes, we had to slow down because my wife was tired. We crossed rivers. There was one river that we crossed that we had to pull off our dresses because it was too deep. Notwithstanding the depth, my wife was made to wade through. She was exhausted because the terrain was mountainous. We were just going round those mountains, up and down.<br><br><b><i>What is the age range of the abductors'</i></b><br><br><br>They are just around 18 years of age. Maybe the oldest of them should just be a little bit above 30. <b>They are just young boys and they all spoke Fulani language, Fulfude. They only spoke Hausa with us but once they started communicating among themselves, it was in Fulfude.</b> They claimed that the government abandoned them. I dont understand what they meant by saying that the government abandoned them. They said they didnt go to school; no cows and they dont have means of survival. I just imagine that if I were a government official, it would have been terrible for me or if they knew that I have any connection with any government official, it would have been terrible for me. But I told them that I am a citizen and that I have nothing to do with the government. And I told them that whatever they think the government is not doing for them, it was not doing for me too. We live in the same country where nobody is treated differently. And I told them if they were talking about hardship, we were all going through it together. They told me they knew me and that they knew the camp for years. I told them that if I had money, that place would have been developed a long time ago. I told them that I am not in government. But I think they wanted to pass a message to the government. I dont really know but that was the impression and they made it very clear that they wanted to pass a message to the government. So, I dont know what they really meant.<br><br><b><i>Were the boys violent towards you'</i></b><br><br>Honestly, they treated me with respect; maybe because I showed them love. They gave it (love) back to me. They also treated my wife with respect. Sometimes, after trekking a long distance and my wife was tired, they would say, Lets wait for Mama. So, they were calling me Baba and calling my wife Mama.<br><br><b><i>Were you fed'</i></b><br><br>Well, the first night there was nothing (to eat). But on the second day, they went and got bread and non-alcoholic beverage for us. There were people that supplied them with food; somebody supplied them with rice and tuwo. But we didnt eat their food. But we took the drink, then the second time, we took anothe drink just for us to have enough energy. But we just know that its a networka very neat network.<br><br><b><i>How much ransom did they demand and how much was eventually paid before you were released'</i></b><br><br>They started with N20m then came down to N15m, N10m and then N7m. Eventually, we ended at N4.5m. My people were very concerned because of our age. And when they saw blood all over the car, they were afraid that I could have been injured seriously. They didnt want to take chances with my health. There were blood splashes in the car but God protected me so much so that no single bullet touched me.<br><br><b><i>Given the opportunity, how will you want your abductors punished'</i></b><br><br>Well, as a man of God, I have one satisfaction and fulfillment because they repented. They asked for forgiveness. They asked for prayers. For me, their souls are much more important. Also, I discovered that it is the (economic) condition they are in and they kept saying it that they wouldnt have done it if not for the hardship they were going through, which means there is a purpose, though negative. I think what they need is to be given attention. I dont want to mention the government but the government has to give attention to these jobless youths that we have. Something has to be done to give them attention. It is poverty, suffering that is making them to go into what they are doing. So, for me, I think the government should do something drastically to address the joblessness and hardship that youths are going through. Definitely, there is the issue of drug abuse but the root cause is abject poverty.<br><br><b><i>What was the return journey like after you were freed'</i></b><br><br>Because we were kind to them, we became like a family and since we had to win their hearts, they stopped treating us like captives. They didnt even mask their faces. We sat down with them, chatted and laughed with them but when it came to issue of money their countenances changed. When it was time to release us, they asked our negotiator to bring the money. Unlike in other cases, the negotiator brought the money directly to them in the bush. They collected the money and we came out of the bush with them and they waved us bye-bye! They said, Pray for us ooo! They said, Baba, bye-bye; Mama bye-bye. Take Mama to the hospital. As if we were on a tour. They said we should pray for them because they didnt want to continue, and that they were tired and wanted to settle down. They said if they had money, they would settle down. But I think they came to that level of humanity because we treated them well with love. All through, we showed them love. We treated them as if they were our own children. So, that broke them down and they discovered themselves like the prodigal son in the Bible. We immobilised them without shooting an arrow and they were serving us. Honestly, they were very kind to us.<br><br><b><i>What is your view on the increasing wave of kidnapping and banditry across the North'</i></b><br><br>I think you cant take the issue of poverty away. There is also the issue of religion because some of the people that have been kidnapped are Christians, then some Muslims. I am one of those that have been working tirelessly in Kafanchan to bring peace to Southern Kaduna. I have been able to bring warlords from the sides of the Muslims and the Christians as well as the Fulani groups together. And thats why we have never had a crisis in the Kafanchan metropolis. Thats why everybody was surprised that this thing would happen to me. I also discovered that the issue of land is also a factor, because this journey that I took, the entire vast land that we went through, there was no sign of settlement. The natives were nowhere to be found. It was just bushes and wilderness, uncultivated, undeveloped. Of course, the business (kidnapping) is very lucrative. Within two days, they had made N4.5m. Within this period, they kidnapped four other people in this area, I was the fifth in line, and they told me they were the same people that carried out the operations. If ransom is not paid, they wont continue. But people pay ransom because they dont want their loved ones to just die like that. I think they (kidnappers) are enjoying the money, seriously.<br><br><b><i>Do you think the government is doing enough to address insecurity across the country'</i></b><br><br>I think the government is trying. But honestly, the grassroots is grossly neglected. Whatever the government is trying to do is not getting to the grassroots and that is why you discover that most of the kidnappings are from the grassroots; thats why these people dont speak English and when you want to speak English, they get angry because they dont understand what you are saying. And most of the kidnappers are stark illiterates. I think the efforts of the government are not really reaching the people that matter. The government should find a way to ensure that their efforts reach these people. I have lived in Kafanchan for the past 30 years. I have worked with the grassroots; the grassroots are grossly neglected. The people dont need much to survive but the money that is released in the name of reaching out to the disadvantaged people ends up somewhere else. The grassroots are left untouched. That is what is actually causing this kidnapping. It is being done by the younger generation because they are bitter with the older generation.<br><br><b><i>The Nigeria Police Force claimed that you were rescued and here you are saying that you paid a ransom of N4.5m before your release. How do we reconcile this'</i></b><br><br>Honestly, I am very angry with the police because I am the chairman of the Pentecostal Fellowship of Nigeria in Kaduna State and the Secretary General of the Southern Kaduna Christian Leaders Association and I am the one pioneering advocacy in the grassroots. I approached the Emir and I told him that they were unfair to me. The government is unfair to me. I have met government officials on how to bring peace to the land and I am the one attacked. For what I have done, it is enough for the government to actually stand strong for me. Since my abduction, they, except the local government chairman, never came to check on my family. I was amazed that the police said they chased the kidnappers and that they escaped with me. When and how' We never saw the police anywhere. We paid the N4.5m ransom and the kidnappers brought us out from the bush to safety by themselves. Up till the time that I got to Kafanchan, I didnt see any policeman. No policeman called me. No government official called me. Up till this moment, no government official called me. The government should tell the truth. They shouldnt just come out to tell lies just to polish their image. They should be responsible. The government should not claim what they didnt do. In Kafanchan, I am not an ordinary person. I have impacted lives. Since I came back, nobody has come to my house to know if I am actually back (released). If they are really monitoring, is it that they didnt know' Since I came back, none of them has actually come to see me. I know some people that, if anything happens to them in this town, the government officials would come personally. But somebody like me that I has laboured for peace in Southern Kaduna, no official has called or even attempted to visit me. So, you see, it makes one feel bitter that some people are more preferred than others. So, the government is not actually recognising those that have laboured for the land. For me, I am not just a leader but a father. Everybody knows that. I deal with the good and the bad. That is why we have peace in the metropolis. We are the ones keeping peace and we are the ones neglected. Its not fair.</blockquote><br><a href="https://punchng.com/our-abductors-spoke-fulfulde-collected-n4-5m-ransom-kidnapped-kaduna-pfn-chairman/'amp=1&utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter&__twitter_impression=true">https://punchng.com/our-abductors-spoke-fulfulde-collected-n4-5m-ransom-kidnapped-kaduna-pfn-chairman/'amp=1&utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter&__twitter_impression=true</a>
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